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Philip DeFranco
In advance: The reason I didn't use the final story (The most serious story) as the thumbnail/title, is I feel weird about pulling people in to these ad supported videos with a tragedy. I want to cover it because its important, but I don't want my videos to be tragedy porn. Obviously I cover news and its expected that bad shit is going to happen, but it just feels dirty to me these days. Just thought I'd try to explain for any people who see the title and think Im saying the attack is of lesser importance. Anyway, love you guys and I'll see you tomorrow.
Penitent Hollow
Obviously, men's heads are built to take hits better, bones are denser and more muscle mass that you don't lose just because of hormone therapy. On the flip side, women are more flexible and tend to be smaller and lighter which would be an advantage in more gymnastic sports. Having someone with a built-in helmet boxing someone who doesn't is an unfair advantage as is someone who is smaller and more flexible out preforming people who simply aren't built that way. I feel like this is going to be a very unpopular opinion but I don't think trans-gender people should be allowed to compete in Olympic events where such obvious advantages come in to play, the weight lifting being an excellent example of this.
there shouldn't be transgender competition in standard competition. Men and women are not physically equal, even when someone has transitioned. I would rather have those who have transitioned be in their own competitive category.
On the trans issue i think it should be sorted like this
Male vs Male, Female vs Female, Trans Male vs Trans Male, Trans Female vs Trans Female, Trans Male/Female vs Male. That would be the fairest
Aurelie Nix
Trans people don't CHANGE gender, some trans people transition in one way, others in another, some go through surgeries etc. Trans women were not "born a man" and trans men are not "born women" they were assigned a gender and/or sex at birth and it wasn't correct. Stop calling trans women men and trans men women. Fuck man...
If you've taken any form of hormone therapy or had transition surgery then you can't compete in any competitive sport involving any form of financial incentive. You can't win money. If you want to be an amateur athlete that's commendable, enjoy your healthy active lifestyle to it's fullest. However you made a choice to transition, that choice has consequences. Not being eligible to be a competitive athlete should be one of these consequences. That's fair.
Deadspace 801
It seems unfair to all the women that train their whole life to be a weightlifter or a fighter. Because they're on the wrong side of History [at the time] they get no trophies and they get no scholarship I'm sure they feel like they wasted their time and/or their life a little....
Dwayno Willi
what you do with yourself is your business. I really don't care. when I start to care is when you expect the world to change because of your feelings. Don't expect me to change. don't expect the rules to change. you can't argue with biology, men have an unfair advantage.
Riley Pearce
Put any and all trannies in the special olympics...
The Reaccomodater, that's going to be the name of the next Terminator model/vilian
Phelip B.P.
I really don't need to think about my son or daughter or whatever. For some reason i was born white, i can pretend and act like i'm not, i can cosplay like fucking nightcrawler for the whole year and it wont make me fucking blue.... wtf ??? They have to compete on whatever the gender they were born. "ohh but i'm taking hormones" ohhhh please....SO DONT . WTF is wrong with the world ? This shouldn't even be considered an issue. . . . . .

I don't know if it is a too radical way to think, but if i decided to do this or that in life i would have to also get the consequences of it right ?
ANYTHING you do actuallly, will entail some sort of consequence and i am truly sorry if anyone reads this and get offended by it .But just shut the fuck up and deal with it.

Why common rules and logic ALWAYS has to be bend when it comes to race or gender ? I don't give a fuck about another person does as long as dont affect myself, ( maybe i do if its family ).

Is it too radical DeFranco ? What do you think ? I would love to know !
Cry About it
Clearly you lack the understanding of the lengths a pervert or pedophile will go to.
Just gonna say, even as a trans* person I don't know what the right answer is. I think it comes down to the differences between sex and gender (gender is how you identify, sex is your reproductive organs). I think sports are divided because of SEX, not gender, because there are physiological differences that we can't ignore. Honestly it's a hot topic, I'm trans* and even I don't know the answer, the only sport I've ever been heavily involved in is karate, in which men and women sparred each other (at least where I took classes and had competitions), there was no gender or sex divide. And having been a physical female at the time, I had no issues going up against girls or guys; some matches I won some I lost, some I won against guys or girls, some I lost to guys or girls... The gender and/or sex of my opponent had no impact on me either way (for the record I was born with the female sex but have been living as a man for 7 years). I dunno, anyone else have feelings? Maybe someone who plays sports where there is a strong divide between sexes?
Donnie Wilhelm
Why are u calling this dude that cut his dick off a she? Just because someone is retarded enough to play that game doesn't mean that everyone else should start playing it too. People need to cut this PC bullshit and come back to reality.
slooth YT
my transgender son can use whatever bathroom he want, in the adoption center
discussion regarding the sports issue with trans gender. i personally don't care if they wish to compete. but, how long was the weightlifter training as a man before the hormone replacement therapy "changed" them? that'd be like arnold schwarzenegger putting on a bra after years of working out as a bloke then competing.. it doesn't work. i also do understand the female to male change due to the fact they have less testosterone, so won't build as much muscle mass over the years they were women. sending them into a fight against fully trained guys who never had hormone treatment is just as unfair to the competitor, though kudos for the fact they want a go, and could probably beat more than enough to make it count. it's a grey area that will never get cleaned out as the body all takes too much time to change.

also, regarding the terror incident. if there was only 1 attacker, why was 8 houses raided? why was one of the perpetrators being taken by ambulance on the bridge if the "lone attacker" was shot and killed at the house of commons? it's not on the bridge, it's on a street in town. of course, if pics were doctored, i'll most definitely stand corrected, but i don't even trust mainstream media to tell me what day it is, they lie that much... may the victims of all these atrocities never be forgotten.
Daniel McKay
It's real simple: If you were ever a man, you compete against men only.
Kathryn Koenig
Sports should be split based on ability, not on gender. There are plenty of men who are weaker than the average man, or women who are stronger than the average female. It should be about strength and actual ability.
Jordan TRusso
Can we stop calling male transexuals "she" and female transexuals "he"? You cant change your gender! Trans operations are purely cosmetic! That's why trans suicide rate is so high, because you dont truly become the gender that you want. You tear your body up just to pretend to be something that you are not. What ever happened to "be comfortable in your own skin?"Does that rule only apply to obese people now? Why cant you just accept who you were born as and love you for who you are?
It's not really that "trans women" have an advantage. It's that they're not women.
naeu nuhm
I once walked into a men's restroom that was occupied without noticing
the urinals, and used the unoccupied stall. As I was washing my hands
(still didn't notice the urinals), a guy walks in and we both look at
each other questioningly. I finally realized I was in the wrong
restroom. Was I pervert? No. Was I sleep-deprived? Yes. No one
complained or made a big fuss about it.

I knowingly use the men's room when there is a huge line in the women's room. No one cares about it, so I don't understand the opposition.
Bobbaloo O
You can choose to take something to reduce bone density? This sounds insane and like self harming?
Synchronic 7
men should compete against men same with women 21st century at its finest this world is getting out of control crazy liberals and sjw's
Lori Burnip
I think people should be separated by ability, strength & weight in many sports, not gender. They should have weight/strength tests & divide people into weight classes based on their abilities. That would eliminate the gender issue, but then again I don't know much about sports, so I might be mistaken.
Gy Bx
Feminists wanted it, women support it, now let the Femmies deal with it. No male should be involved. It's NOT a male problem. Let the ever-so-smart females untangle the mess they've made without any male involvement whatsoever.
It's so nice to shine a light on the ones who will go out of their way to help others. Thank you for reminding me that there's still good in this world.
ahmed al mehri
I just realized I'm affected by the laptop ban
In all honesty man. The problem with the bathrooms is CHILDREN! If you were a father would you like to have a trany in there next to your little daughter? This is not ridiculous to be against that, and that doesn't mean at all that you are against transgenders at all. It has to do with protecting children for Christs sake.
Sugar Rhodes
I flew to Mexico 2 weeks ago landing in Mexico City. I noticed there are several venders that offer wrapping your luggage in cellophane and marked with a bar code and you are given a receipt to match. I travel around the world on a regular basis and I don't know of many other airports that offer this service. This was my first trip to Mexico and I was only planning on staying for 2 days, but left after 1 because it was not safe for a solo female traveling alone. I had my bags wrapped when I went to leave Mexico and return to South Korea. I figured there was a good reason why this service is offered in a time when we have locks to protect our belongings. Of course the only other people able to get in to your luggage are of course the TSA and/or baggage handlers. Mexico tried everything to get me to pay to leave their country by stating I was missing a form, sending me to another location, where I would get more run around and each time a form strangely was left out and no one spoke English. I was delayed by immigration and I had just 10 mins to board the plane. They insisted that I now had to check my one carry on that has all my audio and video recording equipment as well as my laptops and other electronics. I refuse to ever let that out of my possession and they would not let me board. They never asked to search anything or questioned the contents. After this the paper shuffle ramped up. No one spoke English to answer my questions. They could however say, "If you can not find the form you will have to pay". I refused I was not allowed to leave for nearly 30 hours. I ended up having to call the American Consulate and they said that they probably thought I was a drug mule. I told them that they have never once asked about my bags or asked to look in my bags. Finally one worker took pity on me and I was able to get a standby seat leaving back to LAX. When I get to LAX and I told US customs what I had experienced, he looked and me and in very matter of fact tone told me "Yeah, Mexico is pretty pissed at us about Trump!" I couldn't believe what I was hearing, so if you go to Mexico you might want to have a T-shirt that says "I'm from the US and I didn't vote for him. Id have it written in Spanish though. LOL I won't be going back there ever, I'm totally not interested in being punished for this perceived crime against humanity. I didn't vote for him, but I did vote.
Biological men should not compete with biological women. It's biological fact that men in general have 3x upper body strength, more muscle mass, stronger bone density and more testosterone.
IT"S STILL NOT FAIR!!!!! Trans-women athletes still have XY chromosomes in every cell of their bodies, they are bigger than women regardless of hormones....why are people so dumb? You can't change biology completely through hormones!
Jane Madison
Men and women are already equal. What law do men have that women don't? In fact, women have more laws protecting them in the case of divorce and abortion. The women get the kids over men and the women can abort the child even if the father wants to keep his kid. That's not fair
The Guam Guy
please stop saying "conversation"
Paul Smith
Transgenders should be banned from all public sports, problem solved.
Infinite Ronin
The whole conversation about the trans matter has only become a thing because of the hijacking of the words "gender" and "sex". For a number of reasons, saying the word "sex" even clinically to define oneself by their biological makeup became something frowned upon so people started using "gender" to get around that. Unfortunately... that has led to the issues we face today like the ones talked about here.

Put simply, gender is an expression based (usually) off of sex. Boys should wear blue and girls should wear pink, men don't cry, women stay in the kitchens and have babies, etc. Not that I agree with any of these things, but they are examples of gender.

Sex, on the other hand, is a biology. Not an assignment. That is another kind of hijacking btw and I'll get into that in a second.

Sex is something that can be observed objectively, researched, experimented with, documented with the findings, etc. It is not an opinion. It is not a metaphysical thing. It is a physical thing from the start and to the finish.

Gender is a thing that, while it might have roots in the observation of the physical via biology as spoken before, is essentially a metaphysical thing. It is an opinion of what it means to be... whatever sex you are.

But because we've come to be used to using the terms interchangeably, here comes these groups of people that are seeking special privileges with messages and "evidence" (cough cough! alternative facts!) about what sex really is and that a huge part of it is an effort by some systematic organized, oppressive school of thinking meant to keep it that way. Hence, the "assignment" matter.

"Assignment" of sex in place of gender makes it seem like everyone is being controlled by some kind of power. That we're all drinking the kool aid, all been brainwashed, into believing something that isn't at all true and as such, the people that are demanding special recognition or privilege are the ones being oppressed by those not allowing it. So basically, they attack everyone's credibility, ignore all logic and skirt any effort to produce any meaningful evidence that what they're saying about themselves is true.

Now look, I'm not against people that want to do the transgender thing and transition for themselves. That's your choice, its your body, and if I see someone harassing you for doing it personally I would defend you. I'm all for people being allowed to do what they wish with their body even if I don't agree they're doing it for the most healthy reasons. What I'm not for, however, is the demand that everyone else is supposed to accommodate, bend over backwards, and agree with their personal truth when the evidence they bring to its legitimacy is questionable and circumstantial at best. And I'm sure as hell not going to agree with such people because they're whiners and because they cry oppression in some special form that wouldn't be granted to anyone else in a similar scenario using different words.

What the transgender people believe in about themselves is largely akin to what a person that has anorexia believes about themselves. They see fatness and imperfection even when their bones are sticking out. So should we just say they're right then? I mean, they believe it so how can it not be so? And there's other body image issues people have but I'm pretty sure they're all consistent of being a mental/emotional disorder. So why give exception to this matter?!

You can cut off your boobs, your dick, your vagina, your whatever and replace things. You can get your cosmetic surgeries and alter your shape, etc. But you can't change your DNA. Ultimately, you're only putting on a costume and I don't have to agree with your conclusion in how what you think it means to be a man/woman is how it works.

Its rather ironic, actually. That the people moving for the trans rights thing usually push the message that we've got it all wrong about what gender is and how it works. Yet, they do that ultimately to force others to comply with how they think gender and sex work! So either way, someone's trying to dominate us apparently. But to me, the ones that are trying to use very obvious, overt tactics to accomplish this are much more threatening than ones that are allegedly doing so quietly.

Lemme tack on this other thing here too. One of my favorite logics towards this argument.

We live in a society where you have to care about individuals as well as the whole. But the laws and protections that are made are supposed to cover as many as possible. So then the question becomes, with so many people with so many differences out there, how do we possibly make rules that can apply to all of them?

Well, there are many situations that what I'm about to say doesn't apply so easily, but for this one and for most situations, I'm gonna say what the US Constitutions 1st Amendment was based off of:


So what does that leave? Well, usually science I suppose or at least science for this situation. The transgender SJW's push a very non-scientific, pretty much theological argument regarding how their situation works and how we should accommodate them for it.

And before anyone says that that's not what they're asking for? Yeeeah... try the demand that they should be referred to as their chosen sex or risk jail time or losing jobs like what they're talking a lot about in Canada and New York. That's not an "equal right" that everyone has. That is a privileged right through and through. Gay marriage was an equal right because that is something heterosexuals had. They weren't asking for anything that everyone else wasn't already being allowed. But what the trans SJW's are demanding is a protection right that nobody else has. So tell me how this isn't totalitarian?

Such a theological reasoning isn't something that should be implemented as a law or a solid truth for the populace as a whole because it simply isn't. Its an opinion about themselves that, frankly, no one has to respect if they don't want to. Hell, nobody's required to respect truths that actually have real evidence to back them. So why are these people getting exceptions?

Again, because they claim they're being oppressed. America at least has had a long history of being oppressive to many different kinds of people and they all were wrong. However, that shouldn't be used as an excuse to just let anyone make up any truth they want and demand or shame everyone else to comply with a reasoning that is pretty much completely unsubstantiated from just about all sides.

The transgender people can't win the sex argument. They know that. If they could, all that would be needed to confirm them as being truly what they claim they are (the opposite sex of what they were born as) is some kind of biological test. But that's not what happens. What happens is that they have to go through a rigorous psychological evaluation to confirm it. The biology is still being looked into and as I keep pointing out, the results are spotty at best.

So then they make the argument about oppression, victimhood, credibility of whomever they're arguing with, and metaphysical, opinionated ideas pushed aggressively to be made to look like facts that everyone should lay back and let have pissed in their mouths or else be labeled some kind of racist, sexist, or phobic.

The rules regarding sex in sports, bathrooms, and frankly just everything are as they are because they apply to the general population. Yes, there are exceptions, but changing entire rules to fit the emotional needs of what amounts to a few is insanity and in the way I've been seeing it pushed, pure brainwashing.

I would not be saying this if there wasn't such an SJW push on the matter. I have a friend or two that either has transitioned or directly supports the SJW movement and I've respected them for years.

But the fact of the matter stands that when it comes to society at large, from a scientific standpoint and not from an oppressive organization standpoint, sex transitioning is an emotional issue to which the actions is about putting on a costume to look like the other sex but not actually BE the other sex. And biologically speaking, until there is a way to actually alter the DNA, there's really no solid reason for anyone to believe that the claim that people can be born of the wrong sex based on feeling alone.
Get over that Wall
Trans freaks are not Women, they are men with mental disorders and should be treated that way. You guys are so concerned with the feelings of these fucked up people, but you never consider the feelings of actual women who have to deal with men walking in on them in the bathroom. If these freaks don't want to use the men's bathrooms, they can hold it until they get home. I swear any of these guys try to walk in on my daughter/sister/mother when they are in the bathroom and ill kick the shit out of them.
On the surface I say no, it is an unfair advantage. In saying that I don't know enough to be able to completely commit to that.
Republic of MAC
You don't know? Your calling this person a "she". If that truly is the case, your answer should be, there's no problem. Its just a case of a stronger woman. It isn't her fault she is stronger that the rest of women. Gender ideology is completely incoherent, as evidenced by your difficulty to determine whether this is unjust of not (Tip: of course it is).
I say that classes for transgender athletes should be made. so transgender males compete with other transgender males. the same would go for transgender females. with a system like this there would be no unfair matches. This might sound like segregation of athletes based on gender but it is the best way to have a fair competition.
Liam Sweeney
Apparently a man is 40% stronger compared to a woman with the same muscle mass. Men actually have stronger muscles. So it can't physically work.
jane dove
Maybe transgender athletes should have their own separate sports league? I mean, there are Midget sports leagues. That's not due to discrimination, it's just about competitors being on an even playing field. Idk, it's a complicated situation, but the way things are done now is clearly not working.
listen too your mom and get a job
Maxie Love
Why so skeptic Phil? People still use Portable DVD players. scoffs
you have obviously transitioned, why not a weight lifter.
Hence why i'll never watch or support the Olympics again. This is bullshit. You're fucking up the world with your agenda. YOU ARE JUST FUCKING UP WOMEN'S SPORTS! Not men's sports, JUST WOMEN'S! god damn you libtards and feminists are retarded. My daughter will have to compete with a man, just FUCK OFF!
"She" doesnt look like a Women. Fuck that!
My thoughts are there should either be a new category, or transgenders shouldn't be allowed to compete in professional sports at all. Especially men becoming women, it's an slap in the face to all the women who worked hard and trained for years in their professions only to get beaten by someone who has an innate advantage.
William Beckham
come on mate! this is crazy! it's a man. check his birth certificate
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